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are the bondholders more important than the sergeant in afghanistan? that's a tough decision to make. those are the kinds of choices that have to be made, the kind of contingency plans that the treasury is mapping out today. it really terribly dangerous. >> let me ask you, before i turn to bigger issues, what are the political consequences for the president, for the speaker of the house, and for those republicans who are taking a hard-line in the house of representatives? >> well, i mean, i think the president believes that because public opinion is more on his side than on the republican de, particularly on the shape of a big plan or who has been less willing to compromise, that they feel that almost any outcome is likely to be beneficial to the president politically. i think that when he went on the tv on monday night, his speech was aimed at the independence that the white house is -- independents that the white house is so focused on to convince them he's the reasonable player in this. i'm not sure that that's necessarily the case when we come out
are the bondholders more important than the sergeant in afghanistan? that's a tough decision to make. those are the kinds of choices that have to be made, the kind of contingency plans that the treasury is mapping out today. it really terribly dangerous. >> let me ask you, before i turn to bigger issues, what are the political consequences for the president, for the speaker of the house, and for those republicans who are taking a hard-line in the house of representatives? >> well, i...
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we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has always been just your point. i think he was influenced by the idea that, look i'm not sure this is going to work but i'm not prepared not to the do it and see what the consequens are. i'm mo prepared to do in the this case because i've described this as a war of choice... i've described this as a war of necessity, not choice, as iq was characterized a aar choice. >> i think you're absolutely on it and what we tried to do literally in chapter 9 of this book is to describe the mind-set of obama when he was handling time and time again questions relating to afghanistan. for example, in the su
we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has...
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we can't expect america with all its economic and other problems and with afghanistan to pull our chestnuts out of the fire. >> rose: but on the question of nato, secretary gates suggested as much. >> rose: indeed. indeed. witness again, you know, a few weeks of military action on a very small scale in libya... >> rose: and all of a sudden... >> and we're running out of munitions and turning back to the united states as the land of last rest. but look, frankly, the military action in libya which i supported, reluctantly but i supported, i actually a sideshow. the big question is can you turn egypt which had been historically at the heart of islamic culture and scholarship into a model and a beacon for threst of the arab world in. >> rose: and your answer is likely? unlikely? too soon to tell? >> look, i mean, there's amaze pog ten nshl egypt and then a highly educated young people, a strong middle-class, a great sense of history and tradition. but it could all go pear shaped between armyn the one hand which is now proving an unam big rouse friend of liberal democracy and the muslim brotherh
we can't expect america with all its economic and other problems and with afghanistan to pull our chestnuts out of the fire. >> rose: but on the question of nato, secretary gates suggested as much. >> rose: indeed. indeed. witness again, you know, a few weeks of military action on a very small scale in libya... >> rose: and all of a sudden... >> and we're running out of munitions and turning back to the united states as the land of last rest. but look, frankly, the...
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>> we can talk about afghanistan later. >> life, whatever. well, i don want to get t life. >> now that everydy has sort of worked through their issues and it has become clear that something i think they believed with speaker boehner, but it will come around to something like a $2 trillion package or come up with $2 trillion in vings that will extend the debt limitation. >> that's what the administration believes? that's their revised hope? >> i believe that's true, yes. now, that said, i think that no one involved in this right now really has a good handle on where the boats are and nobody has really seen anyone like that. >> in the congratulate or the implications for this in a political season? >> both. number one i don think anybody knows what can pass right now. because you have -- for example say this 2 trillion-dollar dales. for most democrats it will involve soig medicarend medicaid savings and significant cuts in domestic spending they -- you can't pullhat out of the economy, not the revenues they were hoping for. the overwhelming num
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it can proje power militarily so in afghanistan and libya. president sarkozy is wanting the g-8 this year but it' only the size of texas and with an economy that's probably the size ofalifnia. >> charlie: yes. how is he doing? president sarkozy. >> we're in a period of track cision, in part because of what happened because of -- who could have been the social es party candidate and wa leading inhe poll in any combination >> charlie: against sarkozy. >> exactly. it's out of the picture. even though tzar -- tzar sarkozy -- >> charlie: at the likely to be the nominee. >> no clue. i would like to see francois who is really smart and funny and not seductive enough for the french people. >> charlie: he was head of the socialist party and his wife, n his wife -- >> father of their four children. >> charlie: she got the nomination. >> right. >> charlie: is she still going to run or not? theye no longetogether and he could be running and she could be running and they were -- >> she would like to run again. but there's another woman in the picture who
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british combat operations in afghanistan will finish by the end of 2014. but david cameron says there will be a long-term relationship to build the country based around trade, diplomacy, and military training. >> let's take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world today. beginning with british prime minister david cameron's comments, shocked and allegations that a mobile phone belonging to a british girl nine years ago was hacked into by a private detective working for "the news of the world." they say they've only made aware of the allegations on monday. >> it is the most serious allegation yet in the phone hacking -- that a missing girls of voice mail was intercepted and a police investigation potentially compromised. >> as a lawyer you are kind of used to hearing fairly awful disinformation -- i got goose bumps. it is one of the most despicable things. >> it is alleged that this man, a private investigator, carried out the hacking and deleted some of the voice mail messages to make space for new ones. news international says
british combat operations in afghanistan will finish by the end of 2014. but david cameron says there will be a long-term relationship to build the country based around trade, diplomacy, and military training. >> let's take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world today. beginning with british prime minister david cameron's comments, shocked and allegations that a mobile phone belonging to a british girl nine years ago was hacked into by a private detective...
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in washington, and early families of british soldiers who died in iraq and afghanistan have expressed shock and anger that their phones may have been hacked. personal details of bereaved relatives were found in the files of the private detective who intercepted voice mail messages for the "news of the world." news international, which owns the newspaper, said it would be appalled if there were any truth to the claims. >> "news of the world" prides itself on supporting british soldiers and the families of those who died on the front line. now it is alleged to have been responsible for hacking into the phones of some of those families. their phone numbers were found in the files of the private investigator. >> the families are very upset and disturbed. really upset. >> the royal british legion has dropped the "news of the world" as its campaigning partner, saying it will suspend its relationship with the partnership. >> we do not want to get ahead of ourselves. the police investigation is ongoing. we need to see the results of that. i have to say, if these actions have been verified, an
in washington, and early families of british soldiers who died in iraq and afghanistan have expressed shock and anger that their phones may have been hacked. personal details of bereaved relatives were found in the files of the private detective who intercepted voice mail messages for the "news of the world." news international, which owns the newspaper, said it would be appalled if there were any truth to the claims. >> "news of the world" prides itself on supporting...
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they have claimed by the afghan government to be shelling into afghanistan. they say they have withdrawn all cooperation with the u.s. on the strikes and so on. do you think that we are building? >> i do, actually. everyone has stepped back from the abyss after looking into it and realizing once again th we have again a very important objectives, many of which we share and we need to focus on those and move forward. >> the campaign in afghanistan has been a long slog. there has been a huge price paid in lives and money. do you think that the patnce of the u.s., the u.k., nato will hold out over the next few years? do you see exhaustion set in end? >> this has been a long war, no question. our countries have shown enormous determination and persistence. my sense is that if that progress continues, if the people recognize that this enables us to achieve our important objective, they will continue to provide the support. this is incumbent upon us and our partners to continue to build o that we can be very clearly seen by all of those back home that have sacrific
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the prime minister arrived from afghanistan into the storm. >> we need to have an inquiry, possibly inquiries into what has happened. we are no longer talking about politicians and celebrities. we're talking about murder victims, potentially terrorist victims, having their phones tapped into. >> what happened in the newsroom of the news of the world is already being investigated by 50 police officers. now there will be inquiries into why the police took so long to take this seriously. what is wrong with the british media? this all began with the imprisonment four years ago of the upload news of the world," royal editor. also in prison was this man. >> due to legal constraints, the state of coming home or come in at the moment. >> it is his notes of private phone numbers that have fueled this dog up. that and the mounting anger of mps who have said that police do not want to investigate what he has done. rupert murdoch issued a statement describing what had happened as deplorable and unacceptable. he stated that "our company must fully cooperate with the police and said that what happened unde
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over the years to pay off bin laden, not to attack saudi arabia, because he was outside, he was in afghanistan, not to attack saudi arabia. in this country, if you and i re talking about the mafia, we'd call it protectionmoney. that is one area. the people who investigated 9/11, and earlier at the cia, concluded that the saudis had been paying protection money for a long time. the second area that i think is especially interesting, and that both the joint inqui for congress and the 9/11 commission people delved into is the evidence on the ground in california, where the first two terrorists, the ones already identified by the cia, arrived. they arrived and the evidence suggests that an imam, the religious man at the saudi consulate first okayed them as sort -- first gave them a sort of tour of the area in los angeles. after that, the two of them connected with another saudi, who was paid from official sources, but apparently not for doing any known work, who had been thought of for a long time as a saudi agent. they connected with him in a meeting that was odd. he says he heard arabic being sp
over the years to pay off bin laden, not to attack saudi arabia, because he was outside, he was in afghanistan, not to attack saudi arabia. in this country, if you and i re talking about the mafia, we'd call it protectionmoney. that is one area. the people who investigated 9/11, and earlier at the cia, concluded that the saudis had been paying protection money for a long time. the second area that i think is especially interesting, and that both the joint inqui for congress and the 9/11...
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you count savings from withdrawal of troops, from afghanistan and from iraq. you have some other defense cuts can, you have a whole bunch of discretionary cuts. you do some little things on mandatory programs that are not social security or medicare. and so then the deal gets done and some ofhese big questions on medicare and taxes get saved for the 2012 campaign. on the other hand, whenou read quotes which you occasionally read, from congressional staffers, republican staff are saying, you know, ybe a showdown in whiche don't get this deal isn't the worst thing. that does make you wonder how many people within congress think that actually no deal would be better than a deal. and my colleague david brooks argues that that would be very bad for the republicans politically. i'm not so sure about that. there is only one president and there's only one ecomy and i think there's a chance that chaos and no deal actually hurts the white house and to the extent that the republicans agree with that, then we could be in for a really dicey couple of months. >> rose: thank
you count savings from withdrawal of troops, from afghanistan and from iraq. you have some other defense cuts can, you have a whole bunch of discretionary cuts. you do some little things on mandatory programs that are not social security or medicare. and so then the deal gets done and some ofhese big questions on medicare and taxes get saved for the 2012 campaign. on the other hand, whenou read quotes which you occasionally read, from congressional staffers, republican staff are saying, you...
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he says this will be a loss felt in homes across afghanistan. but you speak to the international mission, the realization is that he kept a lid on things, managed to keep things under control. kandahar is still very volatile as a promise -- as a province, but the united states and the afghan government has made a great deal of progress. much of the reason for that was the relationship with ahmad wali karzai. should we arrest them, should we throw them in jail? eventually, he was much better on our side, and we needed him too much. the loss is being felt both within the international community and within the afghan government. >> thank you very much, from koppel. french president nicolas sarkozy is on a tour of afghanistan. he said he will withdraw 1000 french soldiers by the end of 2012. about 4000 french troops, a part of the nato mission in the country, he has stated that french troops would be brought home on a timetable comparable to that of the americans. some of the other stories making headlines today -- russia is having a day of mourning
he says this will be a loss felt in homes across afghanistan. but you speak to the international mission, the realization is that he kept a lid on things, managed to keep things under control. kandahar is still very volatile as a promise -- as a province, but the united states and the afghan government has made a great deal of progress. much of the reason for that was the relationship with ahmad wali karzai. should we arrest them, should we throw them in jail? eventually, he was much better on...
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he's been a key voice on everything from the thdrawal in afghanistan to u.s. relationships with china. the los angeles angels of anaheim has written apart from the firs family there may b no one who spends more time than donilon. as the u.s. faces economic challenges at home and rapid changes abroad with an arab spring, the white houshas made its mission to restore american prestige and influence and power around the world. i'm pleased t have tom donilon at this table for the first time welcome. >> thank you, charlie, great to be here. good to see you. >> rose: there's so much to talk about in limited time. we could spend 30 minutes just talking about your biography and your friendship with warren christopher, the clinton administration, all of that. you combine policy and politics in earlier careers and now it's the focus of the united states and its relationship with the world. how do you view the mission? because you said you wanted to restore america's credibility, its influence, its respect, and its power. >> well, i think that's exactly right, and that i
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police are investigating the case of james phillips and, killed in afghanistan. according to his father, e-mail messages he received after his death had been read. he suspects, by hackers. >> they should suffer whatever punishment is appropriate. i'm sure that will happen. it is going to take time. >> rebecca brooks, picture leading news international tonight. criminal investigation, public inquiries. the scrutiny of what went on at her newspaper could continue for years. >> for more on today's news, i'm joined from london by author and journalist peter preston who was the editor of the guardian for a number of years. if i could start, could you explain to viewers around the world and here in the united states just how big a deal this story is and the latest developments art? >> it was all about celebrities. it was difficult to get the public engaged in that. this week, when it was revealed that the telephone of the 13- year-old murder victim had been packed into and a whole variety of other car stories -- hacked into, and a whole variety of other horror stories
police are investigating the case of james phillips and, killed in afghanistan. according to his father, e-mail messages he received after his death had been read. he suspects, by hackers. >> they should suffer whatever punishment is appropriate. i'm sure that will happen. it is going to take time. >> rebecca brooks, picture leading news international tonight. criminal investigation, public inquiries. the scrutiny of what went on at her newspaper could continue for years. >>...
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. >> rose: owednesday president obama will announce how many troo will bring home from afghanistan beginning next month. the announcement follows months of debate in the white house, it comes with increasing concern in the war andure role in the country. the administration fac a number of challenges at home. unemployment remains high at 9.1%. the housing market continues to suffer and the u.s. debt has surpassed 14 trillion dollars. all of this will pose a significant challenge for the president in the 2012 eltion. joining me now a group of comments from the new york time from washington david brooks, with me here in new york, david leonhardt, roger cohen and tom friedman. they have all won too many awards to talk about. mi pleased to have all of them on this program today to talk about america. what's the challenge for us? because wherever i go around the world the thing they say is tt we want america to take care of their business at home first, so that they can lead the world and pla an important part as the rest of the world changes. >> well, charlie, i think the world does understan tha
. >> rose: owednesday president obama will announce how many troo will bring home from afghanistan beginning next month. the announcement follows months of debate in the white house, it comes with increasing concern in the war andure role in the country. the administration fac a number of challenges at home. unemployment remains high at 9.1%. the housing market continues to suffer and the u.s. debt has surpassed 14 trillion dollars. all of this will pose a significant challenge for the...
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in other news, 7 afghan policeman have been killed in southern afghanistan. the attack happened in an area due to be handed over to afghan control later this week. it also coincided with the departure of america's top commander, general david petraeus. he is leaving to become head of the cia. u.s. marine corps general allan will take over control of the forces in afghanistan. the u.s. senate will hold daily sessions including the weekend until legislation is passed to raise the government limit on borrowing. the senate majority leader said it was necessary to prevent the u.s. from defaulting on its debt. talks have taken place between the u.s. government officials and representatives of the libyan leader muammar gaddafi's government. this comes after months of air strikes bombarded in the country. for more on what the talks entailed, i am joined by andrew north. what is the significance of this meeting coming so soon after the u.s. government recognized the rebels as the legitimate governing authority? >> there is a direct link. u.s. officials have been clear
in other news, 7 afghan policeman have been killed in southern afghanistan. the attack happened in an area due to be handed over to afghan control later this week. it also coincided with the departure of america's top commander, general david petraeus. he is leaving to become head of the cia. u.s. marine corps general allan will take over control of the forces in afghanistan. the u.s. senate will hold daily sessions including the weekend until legislation is passed to raise the government limit...
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ministry of defence in london says two british nationals have been arrested by british forces in western afghanistan. reports suggests they are suspected of fighting for the taliban. news of the rest comes on the day when nato troops are due to hand over control to afghan security forces. the u.k. inquiry into phone hacking by journalists could be widening beyond news international. detectives have asked for records of a 2003 inquiry which looked into the use of private investigators by reporters. it found journalists across the industry have paid for illegally obtained information. a new study suggests taller people are at greater risk of developing a range of cancers. the research in the lancet found in women the likelihood of developing cancer rose by 16% for every 10 centimeters increase in height. taller men were all so mad at increased risk. -- were also at increased risk. the space shuttle atlantis is ending the american shuttle program, now landing. those are live pictures. more on that to come. irish prime minister accused the vatican of putting the church's reputation ahead of child rape v
ministry of defence in london says two british nationals have been arrested by british forces in western afghanistan. reports suggests they are suspected of fighting for the taliban. news of the rest comes on the day when nato troops are due to hand over control to afghan security forces. the u.k. inquiry into phone hacking by journalists could be widening beyond news international. detectives have asked for records of a 2003 inquiry which looked into the use of private investigators by...
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this happened at an important time in afghanistan during the transition to afghan security forces taking place in kandahar. it is picking up pace. >> thank you very much. still to come on gmt -- the countdown begins. >> with just one year until the opening ceremony of the london 2012 the olympic games, we will be speaking to not one but two olympic gold medalists. >> catholics in the vatican say ireland's prime minister was right to speak out about the child sex abuse scandal. criticism of the church's role in covering up sex abuse. >> the vatican is preparing an official reply to outspoken criticism of the church's handling of the sex abuse allegations as recently as 2009 a new irish government report. the news hit the headlines in italian newspapers. last week, the irish prime minister describes the church's behavior as absolutely disgraceful. >> growing up, many of us learned that we were part of a pilgrim church. today, that church needs to be a pennant church. >> the recall of the ambassador is highly unusual. a vatican official spoke of disappointment and surprise as well as regard
this happened at an important time in afghanistan during the transition to afghan security forces taking place in kandahar. it is picking up pace. >> thank you very much. still to come on gmt -- the countdown begins. >> with just one year until the opening ceremony of the london 2012 the olympic games, we will be speaking to not one but two olympic gold medalists. >> catholics in the vatican say ireland's prime minister was right to speak out about the child sex abuse scandal....
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. >>> pictures from southern afghanistans. u.s. marines and afghan security forces are conducting joint operations against the taliban. thursday the troops used helicopters to fly in search of taliban fighters. the current plan is for afghan forces to take over the country's security by 2014. >>> two people were killed when their plane crashed into an unoccupied hospital building in watsonville, california. the plane struck the building shortly after takeoff apparently as the pilot was trying to clear a line of fog. >>> economists look for positive unemployment numbers being released today. >>> plus it's raining? no, not quite, it's pouring in denver, a sudden cloud burst swamps the mile high city. first, scott pelley has a preview of tonight's "cbs evening news." >> from nasa's first mission to now the final shuttle flight, we'll look at how cbs news and walter cronkite covered the space race for the last 50 years, that story tonight on the "cbs evening news." we all have internal plumbing. but for some of us with overactive bladd
. >>> pictures from southern afghanistans. u.s. marines and afghan security forces are conducting joint operations against the taliban. thursday the troops used helicopters to fly in search of taliban fighters. the current plan is for afghan forces to take over the country's security by 2014. >>> two people were killed when their plane crashed into an unoccupied hospital building in watsonville, california. the plane struck the building shortly after takeoff apparently as the...
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special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we dealing with her. >> actually it's six, two in the 19th century, one in the early 20th century, and the rest with the soviet invasion and afterwards. >> jon: starting in '79. >> right. >> jon: what is so alluringly invadable about-- (laughter) >> jon: afghanistan because everyone seems to want to do it they don't have oil. they don't appear to have mineral wealth, although i think they've recently discovered that. they appear to just have a tightly knit group of tribes who don't care for being invaded. >> exactly. and in our case we called it an intervention. some call it an invasion. the big, the most importa
special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we...